Saturday, 22 October 2011

Love in relationships.

As you all can see in this world, there is this whole attention given to this love idea.

Everybody is given love idea a great support, but understand that each are in themselves participating in a different level of love. What do i mean with this..??

Lets say you are in a relationship with someone, and you are telling each other that you love each other so much and all the bullshit the goes with it. But both of you do not know in fact what is going on within the other, you are both believing that the other is loving you, like you are loving him/her. And understand to that, both of you are linking love to a feeling, a good feeling, so as long as you can make each other feel good about each other everything will look very lovely, isn't it...??


I am going to give you an example so you can see more clearly that, that which you are saying to each other, is all created within each what they are talking about and what they are feeling.

This is the sentence that most use in this world to express(voice-out) the so-called  love for one another:

'' I love you ''  Now this sentence is implying that you can love another person in fact. What i wrote here is right now very difficult for you to see/understand/realize, because you are very extensively brainwashed to and as this word ''love'' to be something to say or feel for another that is accepted as ''good.''

What i am going to show you, so it can become more clear for you to see what i am saying is that i am going to remove the word ''love'' in the sentence above and replace it with the word ''feel.''  o.k...??

So lets see how it would look like now: '' i feel you ''  Now is this possible in this reality in fact to feel someone else...??  You can only feel something about another person, but you cannot feel the person in fact, for real, and with this i mean have the feeling of what is going on within the other person and experience this feeling as your own. This doesn't happen in this reality, the physical reality. Now like this, it is very easy for you  to see that this is not real, you cannot feel someone else in fact. But now the moment i replace again the word feel with the word love,it becomes like very difficult for you to see/understand/realize that the outcome is the same. Can you see this....?? Meaning you cannot love another person in fact...!!!

So now, when i say: '' you cannot love another person in fact'' you will react to this immediately, because you are programmed to give this word love much, much more value than life itself. You will immediately say: '' how dare you to tell me that i don't love my children, my wife, my husband, my mother, my father, my siblings and so forth and forth.......

What is really going on within you is just you creating and fueling this ''good feeling'' that you call love inside you about another person. And this person MUST have some points that you have come to accept as things that you would consider lovely so you can than love this person, which was all influential learning or copying.  If your love was real, it would have been the same for every single human being and other expressions in this reality, you would have not been going through a little love here and a lot of love there.You would not have had special people in your life.It would all be the same, because love would be an expression that all are expressing equally. So as long as there are different levels of the so-called love, what you term love will never be real. And how can love be real if it is not an expression, but falls in the category of experience and feeling, which is not as one as equal with and as life...??? And how can it be real if it is the opposite of hate, which is a polarity, separation. Life is not a polarity, it is everything, all inclusive. It is than in separation to what you believe you are, you are not equal and one with the definition you have of what love means, you are not living it, if you were living it for real, in fact you would not be looking for people to love you and for you to love other people, it would be who you are, you know, like breathing, normal things you do. You would than be a walking physical love expression as a human being.

So you see, look at the earth, the earth is one big organism that as this one big organism that is made out of zillions of little particles that make up the world as it exists. Now all those particles work together in unison, as a whole so earth can have it's expression as earth. Now the same applies for every other thing and form from the earth to. Like a tree, an animal, a stone, clouds, mountains, rivers, plants, microbes, bugs......etc etc.......all those expressions on their own as one expression is a coming together of many other single expressions of life, can you see this, is it clear..?? So your human body as a whole, as a complete functional human body is a totality of individual expressions of life working together to maintain and support and assist this one individual human body made out of many individual bodies.  Now this is LOVE. Every part of your body have equal value and worth as all the other parts, otherwise your body will not work properly. Your brain has no more value than your nail. the same goes for your hair vs your eyes. Every thing you can name on your body as parts, are equally valuable as the body that you are.

So what we have come to accept and allow about ourselves and call it life is not what your body itself is expressing as a physical expression of multitudes of individual expressions coming together to express even more, it's like a fest of expressions, all in harmony. Have a look at your world and see/understand/realize that you as a human being, and i am talking to you the EGO now, you are not reflecting the expression of the totality of what you are as a human physical body and not this alone but also as the other expressions, you are against this wholeness..!!

Time to birth yourself to this group where the fest of expressions is not harmed by you the EGO.

Join us at: www.desteni.co.za   and www.equalmoney.org  and www.desteniiprocess.com



Thanks.


Larry Manuela











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Saturday, 8 October 2011

My great obstacle.

It is is 10:40 in the morning on this side of the earth, i am in Europe, in Holland specifically and i woke up like almost 4 hours ago, and what am i doing right now...??

Most of my days goes like this, i wake up and  immediately start my laptop and i go on facebook and youtube and i look at what destonians are placing in the context of what they are writing or vlogging and also some cool ''wake-up call presentation pictures'' that are being placed by them or sometimes also by other friends on facebook. The pictures and presentations i look into that are exposing our accepted and allowed nature very clearly i share them to on my profile.

Usually when i wake-up, i wake-up with a hard dick because i have to pee, and because of me when i was in my deep meditation a.k.a. ( sleep) i was far away removed form my own body, so my body after long periods of time will wake me up with a hard dick and a painful bladder, that it is time to let the shit out, because he has done the great work, and can't hold the shit anymore, so please do wake-up....!!!......lol

Now here is an interesting thing:

Just because, and remember, that what i am about to say here is about my dick being hard===== so just because my dick is hard, my mind immediately kick in and relate this with the experience of me wanting the need for some sexual pictures and thoughts, because the mind is used to: ''dick getting hard= sex must happen in whatever form, and is a great way to suck some energy.''

And when all this happens i become horny, can you imagine this shit......being horny without really in the first place having any need for sexual intercourse or whatever, it is just because my dick is hard so my mind interprets that i need sex now.

Now those of you whom are reading this, bear with me here for a moment, because i have found within me that i am a really horny fucker, and i am placing this here, because i know i am not alone in this stupid behavioral expression, but will be in the future writing more on this subject, because it is one of my most difficult barriers that i have accepted and allowed to be as the '' who i am'' in this world.
So within this, within stopping myself as this personality i have created and accepted and allowed myself to be as, and within this world i am then showing the way and that it can be stopped for those whom believe that you can't and that it is difficult. It may be, and i can tell you all about that, but it is ''going through it'', ''facing it'', that is what is important, to treat yourself as guinea pig, but of course not overriding yourself, be gentle with yourself and breathe in the moments you are starting to see yourself going into full gear and start to let yourself go into the participation of mind-fucking yourself.

So i am going to be very to the point here, and will not hide words, because it is time to face myself in placing the ''who i am as myself as of right now in the world.''

Because all those fears of embarrassments and guilt and you name it, are all points within me that i have to face, in order for me to let go of those feelings and emotions and thoughts that pin me, or better said: that i let myself be pinned down with.

So i am going to place some perspectives on all the points i can remember that made me who i am today.

As a very small kid, and as long as i can remember i was always sensing sexuality in a sense, but it was not what it is right now, it looked then as something unknown and that needed to be explored, need to be looked at and experience what it might be. So anyways, there was this event with an neighbor kid, a female, that changed in one way or another my whole programming about this sex drive of mine.

We were playing, and this girl said: ''why not let us play, father and mother.??'' In saying this she said father and mothers do certain things, and this is one of those things they do. Before i continue i must say here that this girl was older then me and the rest, she was already like 13 or 14 and i was 11 going to 12 something like that, but this girl was always into boys, and i think that she might have had sex already at that age, and maybe her curiosity was triggered to by seeing her mother and father having sex without them knowing it. But it doesn't really matter, what happened is what is the root of the story. So she laid down in a carton box that we were playing with and she open her legs and she said, you have to take your thing, and place it here and she pointed to her vagina and she said there is where you should put it in. Now understand, we were kids, and sex is not something that goes into your mind, it is not important. But yet i find myself having a hard dick and she said yes, now that is good you put inside me now, so i did.

What did i feel to tell you the truth, i felt something that one could term '' nice feeling'' on the physical level of course, but it was not like having sex right now, it was just like something i had to do, because she wanted it and my little dick was hard and i could not understand that either. I could not understand why my dick was getting harder at the view of her opening her legs and telling me to go in there....??? And it didn't last that long, because it was like we were playing this game and that is it, but yet that event changed my whole experience of what i will become as expressing myself sexually. ooh yes and i didn't cum either, for those who want to know..lol

Suddenly i started to noticed that girls were like easy when it comes to making them, or let me say it like, manipulating them into making them believe using words how easy it is to get someone horny, but just using words and making them having pictures in their minds.

Now this is something that i was very good at, and still i am very good at this stuff. But am i proud of that...??  Of course not...!! because i am manipulating the girls using words to make them have pictures in their minds in order for me to get them into bed, into having sex with me. I realized as i said at very young age, even though i could not understand it all the way, how that really works, but that i could do it, and i was fascinated by this thing, i mean.........i was reading books on woman, on all their sexual points important on their bodies and a lot of stuff, i was asking and talking to lesbians, because i found that most of the cases i can see that they are more sensual in the sexual expression, and i found that very powerful, so i had few friends who were lesbians and also i would watch movies and read books where these things are very well explained, all of this bullshit is just in order for me to be the best i could be when i am having sex. At that stage i was more focused on how the girl/woman would express herself, and i had/have this what they call: ''kick.''  To me sex is not sex if the woman i am with is not totally wet, and totally letting herself go, totally willing. So that was my soul purpose when engaging in sexual intercourse. Because if  a woman reach this stage when we are together, i will also experience a more deep sexual experience. For myself i was like always already 100 % horny so it doesn't take much. And i already know as many already know nowadays, that it takes a woman much more time to  reach an orgasm then man. But to me it was more then the orgasm, it was about how she becomes when she is fully free as herself in her expression of sexuality. So i take my time with each i have been with to explore her total body to see, where else is there  left behind, a little spot that has to be dealt with and get that gear more moist and moving faster. And this to me was and still is the most fascinating thing ever, just a woman getting fully aroused, i see it as so powerful, the sexual expression of a woman

I mean i could talk to a woman, one that likes me of course and make her very horny by using words and manipulate her so much so, that she won't be able to resist maybe masturbating or wanting to take all on me......lol
So this is what i was doing most of my teenage years and most of my adult years to up to now. I was 100 % sure of myself that when a girl or a woman likes me and i get to talk ''dirty'' as they say with them or lead them into thoughts of sexuality, that i will succeed. That was what i was good at, can you imagine this shit, to have a talent like this...??? What is the purpose of this talent, i can't use it to bring equality into this world, because it would be to seduce others, and this is manipulative and abusive to myself and the women i will be seducing. So i have to stop myself and remove myself for accepting and allowing myself to be as this so called ''talent'' i have in relation to sex with woman.

now this is more like an introduction here, but i will go into more details on what specifically i am saying and sometimes say or write to woman so you can have an overall view on what the heck i am talking about, and that would be the only thing i can find to assist and support others that are like me, but will not dare talk about it because of fear of all kinds, so i will stand within  and as my own fear so you can embrace yours, i will go through the public humiliation so to speak for to you to see, how it is to walk your talk. Because this is something people are very afraid to talk about, in the open, it is always a secret, like they have with their salaries, nobody wants to tell you how much they make, it's always a secret, so is sex, everyone is doing it, but to talk about it, i mean to really talk about what your doing when you are doing it, and why and all that stuff is being left out, because of fear, so i will take that fear here with you, as an example, and layout my progress in working on what is to me my most difficult part in this process, remember i am 38 years old right now, so it means i have build myself like this for 38 fucking years, so it will take hard work for me to put this point down as myself in my process of letting all that is not for what is best for all go, because it is not needed and what is not best for all only harms and destroy expressions of life.

So you guys will be hearing more of me on this subject that is my life, and in a way that you are not used to, because you are afraid of saying it as it is and how your doing it, but i am not, i pass that already in this process, so i am not afraid for the thoughts of others, of what they might think of my sexual delusions....lol



Thanks.




Larry Manuela
















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Saturday, 1 October 2011

conversation with someone...

As of yesterday i have been chatting with someone on facbook, and this person has an profile that is called:'' Bonaire en de Dollar''

I will be placing the whole conversation here so all can see what we are talking about.



    • Bon nochi Larry, I looked briefly into the Equal Money System. Looks like communism. We all know that utopy didn't work. The once who ruled / made the laws where the once who were sipping champagne and eating caviar everynight whilst the people were eating BORSCHT. Aslong as there are people their will be a UNequality in the world, simply because they're PEOPLE. You see this hand underneath it has 5 fingers, they are all fingers so equal to each other as FINGERS, but they are also all DIFFERENT and that my friend is reality. Saludo for di Boneiru.
  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • Bondia of bonochi.

      I don't know again if you have received my message i sent you before..?? But i can assure you that equal money system is not like communism and we may have some very few principles that look like that within this system, but when it comes to HOW we are going to implement this system into this world, is not going to go through revolution as it was always with the communistic peoples. We already know that the world is going to go through very difficult times ahead, and that allot of people all over the planet are going to be very poor and we present them with this world solution, what do you think they are going to vote for...?? We are right now studying every field in this system and exposing it to all to show them that none are working,thus on all levels, everywhere there is abuse on life, and when the time comes those who are going to defend this system of abuse as it exist right now will have nothing to defend themselves with because we will be covering all grounds on all fields, all the major and top positions that are right now been used to protect the system as it is right now. They just can't defend it no matter how hard they try, and we will be ready to debate with them on all levels. The equal money system value will be based on LIFE itself and each human being on this earth will be given a certain amount of money from the moment of conception and the amount of this money will be enough for each to use for the basic needs of any human being, which are: food, shelter, clothing and healthcare. Education will be free, and each will be educated to learn how to live as equals and how to live as physical being on a physical planet in accordance and taking into consideration ALL living beings as equals and having same rights to LIVE as them.

      Understand that this system will be a completely new system, that will equalize everything. So once and for all we can start to live and we can have true FREE-Choice, because free choice is only real when everyone is FREE to have a choice. Right now in this current system it is not so. There is only a blind believe in peoples minds that they have free choice, but it is only a choice rooted in and for those who have money in this world. Only when you have money in this world you have the apparent free choice, which in essence is not real at all, because then you are dependent on money to have a choice and thus you are not free, simple common sense.

      So please do investigate what we are saying before going into assumptions and comparisons in your mind and also having the fear that was imbedded towards and against communism in the past, that fear is also still existent in men today, and the moment they hear anyone say something about EQUALITY, they immediately see it as communism without any further investigation to really see and understand what we are standing for as a group. As a group we are standing for that which is best for ALL, all of life.......meaning all that is HERE, all expressions of LIFE. But we must start with ourselves first and put the veils of deception that has been put in front of our own eyes so we can see what we are doing to each other and also how we live with each other, that if we do not stop ourselves we will destroy ourselves, We MUST stop ourselves, and it is possible. Let no-one tell you that men inherent nature can't be change because this is a lie, that has been told and is widely accepted and allowed in the world today as for all to abdicate their responsibility and stand for life. Our so called: ''human nature'' is fabricated. not real...!!!

      You know what is sad...??? I am the only person right now in this organization that is from one of these Dutch colonial islands, no-one else....??? And you know what that means that my people are very much brainwashed, that they can't even see that they are living in their minds....the place where we are in separation, and forget about their human physical body.......the universe where we are one and equals....there is where we need to go, to our human physical body, it is our answer to what LIFE is. If you are looking in your mind, you will never find life, you will always be diverted to something outside of you, outside of SELF instead of being one and equal with and as self.

      I was born on this island Bonaire, but i am not brainwashed as they say: mind control or money control to see and believe myself to be a Bonairean, because i already realize that this implies that i am accepting and allowing separation within me and my world as a whole, i would rather see myself as EARTHLING, Born on that particular island, but that won't make me more or less it is just a peace of dry land where i happened to be born on and into, that's it. And this is accountable for everyone else born elsewhere. All that nationality stupidity dies in that moment and fear of others to. Nationalities support separation and not life, don't forget it, this is obvious common sense. And remember common sense and making sense is not the same, don't make that mistake, because allot of people don't know the difference. Making sense is when you use your mind, your using logic and reason based on past experiences of knowledge and information to weight what is being said or written. And Common sense is what is being seen in one moment without any need of memories or knowledge or information, it is clear and sound.


      So hope you investigate the equal money site and also the other site which is : www.desteni.co.za

    • Desteni - Group of people exploring Equality & Oneness principles
      www.desteni.co.za
      The message is that there is one principle that guides the Universe in all ways--Equality and Oneness. This principle is to be understood if humanity is to step beyond the demise and destruction of CONsciousness.
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  • Bonaire En de Dollar
    14 hours ago
    Bonaire En de Dollar
    • Hi I did NOT receive your earlier message. I'm going to read this interesting letter of yours and there will be a comment soon.
  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • o.k. no problem
  • Bonaire En de Dollar
    11 hours ago
    Bonaire En de Dollar
    • Bondia of bonochi.

      I don't know again if you have received my message i sent you before..??
      ==
      Like I sad earlier I did not receive your earlier message. Was it a PM?
      ==
      But i can assure you that equal money system is not like communism and we may have some very few principles that look like that within this system, but when it comes to HOW we are going to implement this system into this world, is not going to go through revolution as it was always with the communistic peoples.
      ==
      Afther I've send you my first respons I did look into the article / link more severe and saw that It was not LIKE communisme.
      ==
      We already know that the world is going to go through very difficult times ahead, and that allot of people all over the planet are going to be very poor and we present them with this world solution, what do you think they are going to vote for...??
      ==
      I really can not answer that question. I only can tell you that I would do. I would NOT chose your solution. I'm pretty sure your system won't work, for the simple fact that the current system does not work like you said earlier. But what system did ever work? We do not live in a UTOPICAL / PERFECT world.
      ==
      We are right now studying every field in this system and exposing it to all to show them that none are working,thus on all levels, everywhere there is abuse on life, and when the time comes those who are going to defend this system of abuse as it exist right now will have nothing to defend themselves with because we will be covering all grounds on all fields, all the major and top positions that are right now been used to protect the system as it is right now. They just can't defend it no matter how hard they try, and we will be ready to debate with them on all levels. The equal money system value will be based on LIFE itself and each human being on this earth will be given a certain amount of money from the moment of conception and the amount of this money will be enough for each to use for the basic needs of any human being, which are: food, shelter, clothing and healthcare.
      ==
      Are you going to start in GREECE, then your money won't be enough for the rest of the world.
      ==
      Education will be free, and each will be educated to learn how to live as equals and how to live as physical being on a physical planet in accordance and taking into consideration ALL living beings as equals and having same rights to LIVE as them.
      ==
      Once again your SYSTEM only works if all people will join. I'm one off them who won't and there will me many others. And we will fight against your system and not with words alone.
      ==
      Understand that this system will be a completely new system, that will equalize everything. So once and for all we can start to live and we can have true FREE-Choice, because free choice is only real when everyone is FREE to have a choice. Right now in this current system it is not so. There is only a blind believe in peoples minds that they have free choice, but it is only a choice rooted in and for those who have money in this world. Only when you have money in this world you have the apparent free choice, which in essence is not real at all, because then you are dependent on money to have a choice and thus you are not free, simple common sense.
      ==
      It is true what you're saying. We are slaves of the commun money system. BUT I can choose right now the amount / the degrees of HOWFAR I want to be a slave. And as far as I can see I won't be having that liberty in the LIFE-based system. I DO not like that. I'm a looner an Asperger....and for me this system would not work. I accept that not all people are alike and want to be alike.
      ==
      So please do investigate what we are saying before going into assumptions and comparisons in your mind and also having the fear that was imbedded towards and against communism in the past,
      ==
      I'm not afraid of COMMUNISME. I prefair communism above the moneysystem. I allways mistrusted the só called AMERICAN dream.
      ==
      that fear is also still existent in men today,
      ==
      YES In the AMERICAN men maybe like they are afraid of the ISLAM now adays. It's their OWN fault because they BUTT in to others affairs.
      ==
      and the moment they hear anyone say something about EQUALITY, they immediately see it as communism without any further investigation to really see and understand what we are standing for as a group. As a group we are standing for that which is best for ALL, all of life.......meaning all that is HERE, all expressions of LIFE. But we must start with ourselves first and put the veils of deception that has been put in front of our own eyes so we can see what we are doing to each other and also how we live with each other, that if we do not stop ourselves we will destroy ourselves, We MUST stop ourselves, and it is possible. Let no-one tell you that men inherent nature can't be change because this is a lie, that has been told and is widely accepted and allowed in the world today as for all to abdicate their responsibility and stand for life. Our so called: ''human nature'' is fabricated. not real...!!!
      ==
      Could be... But it does not intrest me because I'm an Asperger.
      ==ha ha
      You know what is sad...??? I am the only person right now in this organization that is from one of these Dutch colonial islands, no-one else....??? And you know what that means that my people are very much brainwashed, that they can't even see that they are living in their minds....the place where we are in separation, and forget about their human physical body.......the universe where we are one and equals....there is where we need to go, to our human physical body, it is our answer to what LIFE is. If you are looking in your mind, you will never find life, you will always be diverted to something outside of you, outside of SELF instead of being one and equal with and as self.
      ==
      Yes I heard you loud and clear. I think that there are more Bonairians who also believe in the LIFE-based system. And you're right they are indoctrinated by the KATHOLIC church. Or simply can not comprehend what we are talking about because they lack schooling or are the product of INCEST.
      ==
      I was born on this island Bonaire, but i am not brainwashed as they say: mind control or money control to see and believe myself to be a Bonairean, because i already realize that this implies that i am accepting and allowing separation within me and my world as a whole, i would rather see myself as EARTHLING, Born on that particular island, but that won't make me more or less it is just a peace of dry land where i happened to be born on and into, that's it.
      ==
      That's a very good standpoint to take in live. See your self as an earthling. To avoid RACIST reactions I myself tell people that I'm from PLANET EARTH if they ask me where I'm from. Because what they are really asking is, on witch side are you standing in the conflict between HOLLAND and BONAIRE. Holland is RECOLONISING Bonaire and that's not OK with me. No one should suppres no one. That's why I'm giving those who want to FIGHT for what they believe is THERE FREEDOM a helping hand. And uptill know we made some babysteps forward.
      ==
      And this is accountable for everyone else born elsewhere. All that nationality stupidity dies in that moment and fear of others to. Nationalities support separation and not life, don't forget it, this is obvious common sense. And remember common sense and making sense is not the same, don't make that mistake, because allot of people don't know the difference. Making sense is when you use your mind, your using logic and reason based on past experiences of knowledge and information to weight what is being said or written. And Common sense is what is being seen in one moment without any need of memories or knowledge or information, it is clear and sound.
      --
      I do see the difference. Ones again what YOU want is not what everybody wants and that is COMMON SENS and MAKING SENSE in one. Like the shampoo and conditioner in one. Buy one get two.
      --
      So hope you investigate the equal money site and also the other site which is
  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • O.k. i can see and understand your remarks.

      I am not talking about believes, what i wrote you is not my opinion nor believe, i see what is going on in this world with physical beings, the suffering, and real pain happen in the physical. Understand that things are going to get worse, because people don't want to listen, just like you're saying right now, that you will not be on the side of life, and i understand you, because you don't understand what oneness and equality means, and what it means to LIVE it, practically, actually. So because of people that don't know this we are going to continue downwards till we reach a moment where things will get much much more difficult and the suffering much more painful, just because we wanted our ego's to win.

      The world solution we are suggesting is the equal money system.
      The ego solution is our desteni i process, where one learns how to stop your thoughts, emotions and feelings, those things that most people BELIEVE are real, and this course is important for us to STOP ourselves in participating in our minds, instead of being HERE one and equal with and as the physical breath.

      The tools we use are:

      self-forgiveness.
      self-honesty
      common-sense
      Writing yourself to freedom
      Breathing
      Self-corrective application


      So those are the tools we use to correct ourselves so we LIVE the message of Jesus for real, you know: ''love thy neighbor as thyself'' .....don't to on to another what you don't like them do on to you'' ..........''give so you may receive'' .......these are all life principles that are to be lived. Not something to BELIEVE as more Christians do, that is all they do, just believe and within that thinking and believing that they will be saved by Jesus or whatever, but no Jesus is going to come to save no-one. We have to create the world we want to live in.

      And we are right now not going to participate in politics, it will happen in about 10 years from now and in 20 years from now, give and take, the system we are suggesting that you don't want to be part of is going to be here as the system humanity will use, till we become all responsible human beings and we don't need systems anymore. But we must take baby-steps.


      As physical beings we all require some physical needs, and those needs are not provided equally for all human beings in this current system, and that is what we want to take away, that fear based system, fear of survival, and you will see, that when you take the fear away, how people will work together, and also you will be yourself, and be really free, not controlled by anything or anyone.

      Equality is not about we all doing the same thing and all that stuff that you believe right now that we mean, this is not what we are talking about. We are talking about equal opportunities, equal living conditions, equal happiness, equal liberty, equal care........etc etc........and within all this you are yourself, you will continue being an individual, but one who always does what is BEST for ALL, in all ways...always.

      What we are saying is very difficult for most people to get if they are extensively brainwashed. What we are suggesting here is what we as humanity have to live, for it to be real, it is not something one believes and magically it will happen one day.


      And there is no-one else or group of people in this world then ours that is standing up for LIFE...and remember this is not a believe. It is something you have to live.

      That is why we are writing blogs and doing vlogs. To bring the message of oneness and equality to the world. And within our blogs and vlogs we expose ourselves and the system. And we don't do with nicely, because there is nothing nice in what humanity is doing, it is a complete mess, it is time to be direct and go to the core of the problem, the root of the problem, and that is ''money'' in this world, money based on DEBT. Where every person born in this world is born in DEBT, have a DEBT they have to pay. So we say, we GIVE to each form the moment they are born till the day they die that which is used as a tool for that individual to have a decent life in this world.


      So please do investigate what we are saying, and i know it will be difficult at first because what we have to say goes against EVERYTHING you know, because everything you know was a lie.

      And most people they don't want to hear that, and investigate further, their ego's are to big, but no problem because life will become much much more difficult for each till they come to the point where they WILL learn how to forgive, and how to live with each other without harming and killing each other.


      I can say much more things here, but it is better if you would check out the website out for yourself and i will suggest before you read or listen to the videos that are being placed on the website to read the FAQ first, so you can have a better starting point of what the heck it is we are talking about. Because it is a lot to read and listen to, it is not something that you can do that easily, and it is difficult to when you are coming from a point of view of believes. We deal with actual real, tangible physical solutions, we don't dream about them we live it.


      this is the website again: www.desteni.co.za

      And we are not hate base people we don't fight, we have had enough of this stupidity in this world already and as you can see all are blind to believe and think that WAR is going to solve anything, it never did and it never will. For the upper elite....for them WAR has worked always but things have changed and they don't know it yet.



      thanks.



      Larry Manuela.

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  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    about an hour ago
    Larry Alexander Manuela
    • oohhh yes and one more thing, half of the world population is now in poverty and due to the system collapsing this number will increase and the people that are now in governments all over the world will not be able to fix any problem,and by the time we position ourselves in the political arena, those who are in poverty will hear our message very clearly and have already gone to a lot of suffering and abuse done to them, so we will use democratic voting system: ''one man, one vote'' and guess those who are against this equal money system will be in the minority and in a democratic system the majority decides.

      So one more time, things are going to become much more worse for everyone all over the world and lots and lots of people are going to loose all or most of the things they value, and will with each passing day have less and less trust in the system and the one's in power in the system, your politicians and you name it.


      So the elite in this world whom don't want to loose what they have are going to be against an equal money system solution, and they will be in the minority.

      Revolutions in this world that you are seeing going on all over the world won't change anything, because none of them have viable solutions to the world problems, because it is not anymore about just where you live alone, it is about humanity as a whole. So the moment you go in the streets and protest and all that stupidity, because you want things to be the way they were or better, you are being selfish and not considering at all, how it is you are living, how things you are using to have your so-called: ''nice life'' is coming from and how other people in other countries are working their asses of for you in a so-called: ''rich country'' to have you pursuit of happiness. And this is not being understood at all by all those people who are protesting, and are wanting revolution, and as you may already know, revolution has never solved any problem, if it did we would have not been in this mess right now word wide. So revolution is not the way to go at all.

      Those people who are revolting did not learn anything from their own history, that revolution is not going to work and that in revolutions people get killed. Much to learn..

      You will see in this world that a lot of nations and countries, where people are going to revolt, but nothing would change, as a matter of fact things will get worst. Because this is exactly what the powers that be are waiting for, so they can use the behaviors of those who are revolting and control more and more, and till we reach a point where we will go to WAR with each other as stupid as always. The upper elite they want WAR, because war is what in their view is going to solve the problem, reduce the human population and continue with a more powerful control system, of debt. None of those people who go to the streets and revolt,and protest have any solution whatsoever, they are all just screaming and yelling that they want someone to fix the problem or make the things the way they were before, but this will not happen. Because none of the politicians has any clue of what is going on and even when they do, they are afraid to loose their comfortable way of living and thus will not go against those who are paying them, the bankers and the owners of the bankers. They are fearful.

      If we go into politics right now, no-one will listen to us, and i mean those who have access to information and knowledge in this world. Because they are the abusers in this world, and they want to continue being that. Their good living is on the expense of others. Some don't know this, and when you say it to them, they don't like to hear it either, they want to continue acting as if they are so-called: ''good people''. None are good people....they are all abusers, all don't give a f**ck what happens to others as them in this world, so what happens and has been happening to others in this world will happen to all, so they can wake up and see that we are all HERE on one earth and on this one earth all that is HERE are all EXPRESSIONS of life. And all those expressions have the same right to life. none are more or less then another. This is oneness and equality.

      example humans believe that they are more then: animals, plants, bugs and you name it......when in REALITY we are all equals, we are all physical expressions of life on this planet we call earth, and all have the same rights to life. And this simple thing is very difficult for the human as right now to understand.



      Thanks.



      Larry Manuela.
  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    about an hour ago
    Larry Alexander Manuela
    • and another thing, in a life based system, an equality system, you will not be a slave at all. And this is not a promise, because equality implies just that, that if one expression of life is in liberty to express his/her life in accordance and taking consideration of all life, and live a life of giving, all will be receiving the same value, which is life itself and the expression thereof. so i give to you what i would have liked for myself and so do you and so does everybody else, and that is equality.


So as you guys can see that it is very difficult for some people especially when they are brainwashed to understand what we are talking about, and what it means to live as one as equals.


If he/she replies back i will put it here, and if he still does not understand, then i will leave to that, i can't help any further, because he/she won't hear me now.



Thanks.



Larry Manuela




The rest of the conversation.


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  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • I understand what you mean, and this is exactly what i mean about the mind, it is a system.....you are now accepting and allowing yourself to be an asperger. All these are mind consciousness system structures that can be dealt with and deleted using self-forgiveness self-honesty and self corrective action within breath.

      And understand as asperger or not you need to; eat, drink, shit, pee, have a home to live in, you need clothing etc etc, like alllllll none asperger humans, in an equal money system none and i literally mean none are left behind or overlooked, or not considered.

      i have to links for you here for you to see how easy it is to understand how we live in our mind bubbles, and accepting and allowing everyone to live in their little mind bubbles that has nothing to do with reality.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvhOwyPMZ_E&feature=player_embedded


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko-7hm61pAU&feature=player_embedded



      Watch both of them carefully and if any reaction happen within you in the form of thoughts, emotions or feelings, you know like judgments etc etc.......it is time to do self-forgiveness on all of them.
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  • Bonaire En de Dollar
    • You say you underdstand but you don't. I'm born with it. It's not a state of mind. It's who I am. It's a defect. If I stay too long around people I get really sick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
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  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • I don't know if you got me right, what i mean is this.

      Is your defect a physical one or is it something that happens in your mind, that makes you not wanna be around people/....??

      If it is not physical it is a mind delusion, that you and the scientists call a ''defect''........can you see this...??
  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • the scientists are like anyone else as delusional as everyone else, they are designed within the mind to be scientists, everything in this world that is of the human is a design of the mind consciousness system. We are systems living, sucking the life out of the physical that is real. We are like leaches......lol
  • Bonaire En de Dollar
    • Well whatever and who-ever called my STATE of being DEFECT or BEING DIFFERENT I don't mind if he/she/me is or was DELUSIONAL / BRAINWASHED / BRAINDEATH / LIFEBASED-IDEALIST.... I'm FEELING not AN allien anymore on this earth KNOWING that their are 20% of the population with the same PROBLEMS / DIFFICULTIES like I have.
  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • and if you make yourself believe that you don't have feelings and emotions, think twice, because if you are being uncomfortable around people as you say, you must ask yourself the question: ''where does this uncomfortable ''feelings'' come from. is it energetic...??? or is it like something physical, like being cripple and stuff like that, that are physical in nature, if it is energetic in anyways whatsoever it is the mind in work.

      Emotions are negative energized thoughts.
      feelings are positive energized thoughts.

      So on this alone if you can use your own common sense, you can not state that you are not emotional and don't have feelings and that you ''feel'' like an alien on this earth, by the very fact that you are being uncomfortable around other human beings. this thing comfortable or uncomfortable is an EMOTION.......you see this...??


      And if there is any feeling inside you or thoughts that make you believe that i am attacking you in any way, don't follow them because i am not, i am just using common sense here with you so you can see for yourself maybe that what you believe that you have and also those 20% of the population believe they have is all of the mind consciousness system, not real. that is all.
  • Bonaire En de Dollar
    • It's not an emotion or a feeling. We get UPSET if something changes around us. NO CHANGE at all IS PERFECT. So PEOPLE = CHANGE and CHANGE gets me upset --.> takes too much ENERGY soo much ENERGY that I get ILL. Also do I absorb all the NEGATIVE ENERGY that someone has. Some-times I can name it sometimes the PUZZLE will be compleet afther a few days. So YES I do avoid people as much as I can. DON't like to TALK with people on the PHONE because at the tone, tremble of their voice I get all their negative ENERGY. E-mail gives me enough distance to cope with the DRAINAGE. THANK MAN KIND for e-mail, SMS. So for me LIVE was, is and allways will be a HELL. It can't get worse.......
  • Larry Alexander Manuela
    • That is exactly what i am saying........the word ''upset'' is derivative of an emotion. so is ''energy'' being negative or positive doesn't matter. And if you have watched the stickmen video full you would see that when you are saying: ''Also do I absorb all the NEGATIVE ENERGY that someone has.'' This is your making yourself believe that, that is possible, that you can ''absorb'' someone else energy into you. And this is what we are saying that is delusional of the human, and we are all like this, i am no different then anyone else on this earth. there is only one different and that is i can see it now for myself and delete the fucker........lol



      So that was the whole conversation with this person.


      Thank you.




      Larry Manuela.

























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