I will be placing the whole conversation here so all can see what we are talking about.
- Bon nochi Larry, I looked briefly into the Equal Money System. Looks like communism. We all know that utopy didn't work. The once who ruled / made the laws where the once who were sipping champagne and eating caviar everynight whilst the people were eating BORSCHT. Aslong as there are people their will be a UNequality in the world, simply because they're PEOPLE. You see this hand underneath it has 5 fingers, they are all fingers so equal to each other as FINGERS, but they are also all DIFFERENT and that my friend is reality. Saludo for di Boneiru.
14 hours agoLarry Alexander Manuela- Bondia of bonochi.
I don't know again if you have received my message i sent you before..?? But i can assure you that equal money system is not like communism and we may have some very few principles that look like that within this system, but when it comes to HOW we are going to implement this system into this world, is not going to go through revolution as it was always with the communistic peoples. We already know that the world is going to go through very difficult times ahead, and that allot of people all over the planet are going to be very poor and we present them with this world solution, what do you think they are going to vote for...?? We are right now studying every field in this system and exposing it to all to show them that none are working,thus on all levels, everywhere there is abuse on life, and when the time comes those who are going to defend this system of abuse as it exist right now will have nothing to defend themselves with because we will be covering all grounds on all fields, all the major and top positions that are right now been used to protect the system as it is right now. They just can't defend it no matter how hard they try, and we will be ready to debate with them on all levels. The equal money system value will be based on LIFE itself and each human being on this earth will be given a certain amount of money from the moment of conception and the amount of this money will be enough for each to use for the basic needs of any human being, which are: food, shelter, clothing and healthcare. Education will be free, and each will be educated to learn how to live as equals and how to live as physical being on a physical planet in accordance and taking into consideration ALL living beings as equals and having same rights to LIVE as them.
Understand that this system will be a completely new system, that will equalize everything. So once and for all we can start to live and we can have true FREE-Choice, because free choice is only real when everyone is FREE to have a choice. Right now in this current system it is not so. There is only a blind believe in peoples minds that they have free choice, but it is only a choice rooted in and for those who have money in this world. Only when you have money in this world you have the apparent free choice, which in essence is not real at all, because then you are dependent on money to have a choice and thus you are not free, simple common sense.
So please do investigate what we are saying before going into assumptions and comparisons in your mind and also having the fear that was imbedded towards and against communism in the past, that fear is also still existent in men today, and the moment they hear anyone say something about EQUALITY, they immediately see it as communism without any further investigation to really see and understand what we are standing for as a group. As a group we are standing for that which is best for ALL, all of life.......meaning all that is HERE, all expressions of LIFE. But we must start with ourselves first and put the veils of deception that has been put in front of our own eyes so we can see what we are doing to each other and also how we live with each other, that if we do not stop ourselves we will destroy ourselves, We MUST stop ourselves, and it is possible. Let no-one tell you that men inherent nature can't be change because this is a lie, that has been told and is widely accepted and allowed in the world today as for all to abdicate their responsibility and stand for life. Our so called: ''human nature'' is fabricated. not real...!!!
You know what is sad...??? I am the only person right now in this organization that is from one of these Dutch colonial islands, no-one else....??? And you know what that means that my people are very much brainwashed, that they can't even see that they are living in their minds....the place where we are in separation, and forget about their human physical body.......the universe where we are one and equals....there is where we need to go, to our human physical body, it is our answer to what LIFE is. If you are looking in your mind, you will never find life, you will always be diverted to something outside of you, outside of SELF instead of being one and equal with and as self.
I was born on this island Bonaire, but i am not brainwashed as they say: mind control or money control to see and believe myself to be a Bonairean, because i already realize that this implies that i am accepting and allowing separation within me and my world as a whole, i would rather see myself as EARTHLING, Born on that particular island, but that won't make me more or less it is just a peace of dry land where i happened to be born on and into, that's it. And this is accountable for everyone else born elsewhere. All that nationality stupidity dies in that moment and fear of others to. Nationalities support separation and not life, don't forget it, this is obvious common sense. And remember common sense and making sense is not the same, don't make that mistake, because allot of people don't know the difference. Making sense is when you use your mind, your using logic and reason based on past experiences of knowledge and information to weight what is being said or written. And Common sense is what is being seen in one moment without any need of memories or knowledge or information, it is clear and sound.
So hope you investigate the equal money site and also the other site which is : www.desteni.co.za 
www.desteni.co.za
The message is that there is one principle that guides the Universe in all ways--Equality and Oneness. This principle is to be understood if humanity is to step beyond the demise and destruction of CONsciousness.
14 hours agoBonaire En de Dollar- Hi I did NOT receive your earlier message. I'm going to read this interesting letter of yours and there will be a comment soon.
11 hours agoBonaire En de Dollar- Bondia of bonochi.
I don't know again if you have received my message i sent you before..??
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Like I sad earlier I did not receive your earlier message. Was it a PM?
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But i can assure you that equal money system is not like communism and we may have some very few principles that look like that within this system, but when it comes to HOW we are going to implement this system into this world, is not going to go through revolution as it was always with the communistic peoples.
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Afther I've send you my first respons I did look into the article / link more severe and saw that It was not LIKE communisme.
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We already know that the world is going to go through very difficult times ahead, and that allot of people all over the planet are going to be very poor and we present them with this world solution, what do you think they are going to vote for...??
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I really can not answer that question. I only can tell you that I would do. I would NOT chose your solution. I'm pretty sure your system won't work, for the simple fact that the current system does not work like you said earlier. But what system did ever work? We do not live in a UTOPICAL / PERFECT world.
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We are right now studying every field in this system and exposing it to all to show them that none are working,thus on all levels, everywhere there is abuse on life, and when the time comes those who are going to defend this system of abuse as it exist right now will have nothing to defend themselves with because we will be covering all grounds on all fields, all the major and top positions that are right now been used to protect the system as it is right now. They just can't defend it no matter how hard they try, and we will be ready to debate with them on all levels. The equal money system value will be based on LIFE itself and each human being on this earth will be given a certain amount of money from the moment of conception and the amount of this money will be enough for each to use for the basic needs of any human being, which are: food, shelter, clothing and healthcare.
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Are you going to start in GREECE, then your money won't be enough for the rest of the world.
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Education will be free, and each will be educated to learn how to live as equals and how to live as physical being on a physical planet in accordance and taking into consideration ALL living beings as equals and having same rights to LIVE as them.
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Once again your SYSTEM only works if all people will join. I'm one off them who won't and there will me many others. And we will fight against your system and not with words alone.
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Understand that this system will be a completely new system, that will equalize everything. So once and for all we can start to live and we can have true FREE-Choice, because free choice is only real when everyone is FREE to have a choice. Right now in this current system it is not so. There is only a blind believe in peoples minds that they have free choice, but it is only a choice rooted in and for those who have money in this world. Only when you have money in this world you have the apparent free choice, which in essence is not real at all, because then you are dependent on money to have a choice and thus you are not free, simple common sense.
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It is true what you're saying. We are slaves of the commun money system. BUT I can choose right now the amount / the degrees of HOWFAR I want to be a slave. And as far as I can see I won't be having that liberty in the LIFE-based system. I DO not like that. I'm a looner an Asperger....and for me this system would not work. I accept that not all people are alike and want to be alike.
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So please do investigate what we are saying before going into assumptions and comparisons in your mind and also having the fear that was imbedded towards and against communism in the past,
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I'm not afraid of COMMUNISME. I prefair communism above the moneysystem. I allways mistrusted the só called AMERICAN dream.
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that fear is also still existent in men today,
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YES In the AMERICAN men maybe like they are afraid of the ISLAM now adays. It's their OWN fault because they BUTT in to others affairs.
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and the moment they hear anyone say something about EQUALITY, they immediately see it as communism without any further investigation to really see and understand what we are standing for as a group. As a group we are standing for that which is best for ALL, all of life.......meaning all that is HERE, all expressions of LIFE. But we must start with ourselves first and put the veils of deception that has been put in front of our own eyes so we can see what we are doing to each other and also how we live with each other, that if we do not stop ourselves we will destroy ourselves, We MUST stop ourselves, and it is possible. Let no-one tell you that men inherent nature can't be change because this is a lie, that has been told and is widely accepted and allowed in the world today as for all to abdicate their responsibility and stand for life. Our so called: ''human nature'' is fabricated. not real...!!!
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Could be... But it does not intrest me because I'm an Asperger.
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You know what is sad...??? I am the only person right now in this organization that is from one of these Dutch colonial islands, no-one else....??? And you know what that means that my people are very much brainwashed, that they can't even see that they are living in their minds....the place where we are in separation, and forget about their human physical body.......the universe where we are one and equals....there is where we need to go, to our human physical body, it is our answer to what LIFE is. If you are looking in your mind, you will never find life, you will always be diverted to something outside of you, outside of SELF instead of being one and equal with and as self.
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Yes I heard you loud and clear. I think that there are more Bonairians who also believe in the LIFE-based system. And you're right they are indoctrinated by the KATHOLIC church. Or simply can not comprehend what we are talking about because they lack schooling or are the product of INCEST.
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I was born on this island Bonaire, but i am not brainwashed as they say: mind control or money control to see and believe myself to be a Bonairean, because i already realize that this implies that i am accepting and allowing separation within me and my world as a whole, i would rather see myself as EARTHLING, Born on that particular island, but that won't make me more or less it is just a peace of dry land where i happened to be born on and into, that's it.
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That's a very good standpoint to take in live. See your self as an earthling. To avoid RACIST reactions I myself tell people that I'm from PLANET EARTH if they ask me where I'm from. Because what they are really asking is, on witch side are you standing in the conflict between HOLLAND and BONAIRE. Holland is RECOLONISING Bonaire and that's not OK with me. No one should suppres no one. That's why I'm giving those who want to FIGHT for what they believe is THERE FREEDOM a helping hand. And uptill know we made some babysteps forward.
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And this is accountable for everyone else born elsewhere. All that nationality stupidity dies in that moment and fear of others to. Nationalities support separation and not life, don't forget it, this is obvious common sense. And remember common sense and making sense is not the same, don't make that mistake, because allot of people don't know the difference. Making sense is when you use your mind, your using logic and reason based on past experiences of knowledge and information to weight what is being said or written. And Common sense is what is being seen in one moment without any need of memories or knowledge or information, it is clear and sound.
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I do see the difference. Ones again what YOU want is not what everybody wants and that is COMMON SENS and MAKING SENSE in one. Like the shampoo and conditioner in one. Buy one get two.
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So hope you investigate the equal money site and also the other site which is
4 hours agoLarry Alexander Manuela- O.k. i can see and understand your remarks.
I am not talking about believes, what i wrote you is not my opinion nor believe, i see what is going on in this world with physical beings, the suffering, and real pain happen in the physical. Understand that things are going to get worse, because people don't want to listen, just like you're saying right now, that you will not be on the side of life, and i understand you, because you don't understand what oneness and equality means, and what it means to LIVE it, practically, actually. So because of people that don't know this we are going to continue downwards till we reach a moment where things will get much much more difficult and the suffering much more painful, just because we wanted our ego's to win.
The world solution we are suggesting is the equal money system.
The ego solution is our desteni i process, where one learns how to stop your thoughts, emotions and feelings, those things that most people BELIEVE are real, and this course is important for us to STOP ourselves in participating in our minds, instead of being HERE one and equal with and as the physical breath.
The tools we use are:
self-forgiveness.
self-honesty
common-sense
Writing yourself to freedom
Breathing
Self-corrective application
So those are the tools we use to correct ourselves so we LIVE the message of Jesus for real, you know: ''love thy neighbor as thyself'' .....don't to on to another what you don't like them do on to you'' ..........''give so you may receive'' .......these are all life principles that are to be lived. Not something to BELIEVE as more Christians do, that is all they do, just believe and within that thinking and believing that they will be saved by Jesus or whatever, but no Jesus is going to come to save no-one. We have to create the world we want to live in.
And we are right now not going to participate in politics, it will happen in about 10 years from now and in 20 years from now, give and take, the system we are suggesting that you don't want to be part of is going to be here as the system humanity will use, till we become all responsible human beings and we don't need systems anymore. But we must take baby-steps.
As physical beings we all require some physical needs, and those needs are not provided equally for all human beings in this current system, and that is what we want to take away, that fear based system, fear of survival, and you will see, that when you take the fear away, how people will work together, and also you will be yourself, and be really free, not controlled by anything or anyone.
Equality is not about we all doing the same thing and all that stuff that you believe right now that we mean, this is not what we are talking about. We are talking about equal opportunities, equal living conditions, equal happiness, equal liberty, equal care........etc etc........and within all this you are yourself, you will continue being an individual, but one who always does what is BEST for ALL, in all ways...always.
What we are saying is very difficult for most people to get if they are extensively brainwashed. What we are suggesting here is what we as humanity have to live, for it to be real, it is not something one believes and magically it will happen one day.
And there is no-one else or group of people in this world then ours that is standing up for LIFE...and remember this is not a believe. It is something you have to live.
That is why we are writing blogs and doing vlogs. To bring the message of oneness and equality to the world. And within our blogs and vlogs we expose ourselves and the system. And we don't do with nicely, because there is nothing nice in what humanity is doing, it is a complete mess, it is time to be direct and go to the core of the problem, the root of the problem, and that is ''money'' in this world, money based on DEBT. Where every person born in this world is born in DEBT, have a DEBT they have to pay. So we say, we GIVE to each form the moment they are born till the day they die that which is used as a tool for that individual to have a decent life in this world.
So please do investigate what we are saying, and i know it will be difficult at first because what we have to say goes against EVERYTHING you know, because everything you know was a lie.
And most people they don't want to hear that, and investigate further, their ego's are to big, but no problem because life will become much much more difficult for each till they come to the point where they WILL learn how to forgive, and how to live with each other without harming and killing each other.
I can say much more things here, but it is better if you would check out the website out for yourself and i will suggest before you read or listen to the videos that are being placed on the website to read the FAQ first, so you can have a better starting point of what the heck it is we are talking about. Because it is a lot to read and listen to, it is not something that you can do that easily, and it is difficult to when you are coming from a point of view of believes. We deal with actual real, tangible physical solutions, we don't dream about them we live it.
this is the website again: www.desteni.co.za
And we are not hate base people we don't fight, we have had enough of this stupidity in this world already and as you can see all are blind to believe and think that WAR is going to solve anything, it never did and it never will. For the upper elite....for them WAR has worked always but things have changed and they don't know it yet.
thanks.
Larry Manuela.
www.desteni.co.za
The message is that there is one principle that guides the Universe in all ways--Equality and Oneness. This principle is to be understood if humanity is to step beyond the demise and destruction of CONsciousness.
about an hour agoLarry Alexander Manuela- oohhh yes and one more thing, half of the world population is now in poverty and due to the system collapsing this number will increase and the people that are now in governments all over the world will not be able to fix any problem,and by the time we position ourselves in the political arena, those who are in poverty will hear our message very clearly and have already gone to a lot of suffering and abuse done to them, so we will use democratic voting system: ''one man, one vote'' and guess those who are against this equal money system will be in the minority and in a democratic system the majority decides.
So one more time, things are going to become much more worse for everyone all over the world and lots and lots of people are going to loose all or most of the things they value, and will with each passing day have less and less trust in the system and the one's in power in the system, your politicians and you name it.
So the elite in this world whom don't want to loose what they have are going to be against an equal money system solution, and they will be in the minority.
Revolutions in this world that you are seeing going on all over the world won't change anything, because none of them have viable solutions to the world problems, because it is not anymore about just where you live alone, it is about humanity as a whole. So the moment you go in the streets and protest and all that stupidity, because you want things to be the way they were or better, you are being selfish and not considering at all, how it is you are living, how things you are using to have your so-called: ''nice life'' is coming from and how other people in other countries are working their asses of for you in a so-called: ''rich country'' to have you pursuit of happiness. And this is not being understood at all by all those people who are protesting, and are wanting revolution, and as you may already know, revolution has never solved any problem, if it did we would have not been in this mess right now word wide. So revolution is not the way to go at all.
Those people who are revolting did not learn anything from their own history, that revolution is not going to work and that in revolutions people get killed. Much to learn..
You will see in this world that a lot of nations and countries, where people are going to revolt, but nothing would change, as a matter of fact things will get worst. Because this is exactly what the powers that be are waiting for, so they can use the behaviors of those who are revolting and control more and more, and till we reach a point where we will go to WAR with each other as stupid as always. The upper elite they want WAR, because war is what in their view is going to solve the problem, reduce the human population and continue with a more powerful control system, of debt. None of those people who go to the streets and revolt,and protest have any solution whatsoever, they are all just screaming and yelling that they want someone to fix the problem or make the things the way they were before, but this will not happen. Because none of the politicians has any clue of what is going on and even when they do, they are afraid to loose their comfortable way of living and thus will not go against those who are paying them, the bankers and the owners of the bankers. They are fearful.
If we go into politics right now, no-one will listen to us, and i mean those who have access to information and knowledge in this world. Because they are the abusers in this world, and they want to continue being that. Their good living is on the expense of others. Some don't know this, and when you say it to them, they don't like to hear it either, they want to continue acting as if they are so-called: ''good people''. None are good people....they are all abusers, all don't give a f**ck what happens to others as them in this world, so what happens and has been happening to others in this world will happen to all, so they can wake up and see that we are all HERE on one earth and on this one earth all that is HERE are all EXPRESSIONS of life. And all those expressions have the same right to life. none are more or less then another. This is oneness and equality.
example humans believe that they are more then: animals, plants, bugs and you name it......when in REALITY we are all equals, we are all physical expressions of life on this planet we call earth, and all have the same rights to life. And this simple thing is very difficult for the human as right now to understand.
Thanks.
Larry Manuela.
about an hour agoLarry Alexander Manuela- and another thing, in a life based system, an equality system, you will not be a slave at all. And this is not a promise, because equality implies just that, that if one expression of life is in liberty to express his/her life in accordance and taking consideration of all life, and live a life of giving, all will be receiving the same value, which is life itself and the expression thereof. so i give to you what i would have liked for myself and so do you and so does everybody else, and that is equality.
So as you guys can see that it is very difficult for some people especially when they are brainwashed to understand what we are talking about, and what it means to live as one as equals.
If he/she replies back i will put it here, and if he still does not understand, then i will leave to that, i can't help any further, because he/she won't hear me now.
Thanks.
Larry Manuela
The rest of the conversation.
- SundayBonaire En de Dollar
- Like I told you earlier I'm an ASPERGER. 20% of the population on earth is Aspergers. We think BLACK and WHITE there's no in between, LIKE to be ALONE, EMPATHY, LOVE is something we DON'T feel, We have to FAKE it so people don't find us strange.....It's like I'm from an other planet is a very often uttered sentence. http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2010/05/29/people-with-aspergers-less-likely-to-see-purpose-behind-the-events-in-their-lives/
- SundayLarry Alexander Manuela
- I understand what you mean, and this is exactly what i mean about the mind, it is a system.....you are now accepting and allowing yourself to be an asperger. All these are mind consciousness system structures that can be dealt with and deleted using self-forgiveness self-honesty and self corrective action within breath.
And understand as asperger or not you need to; eat, drink, shit, pee, have a home to live in, you need clothing etc etc, like alllllll none asperger humans, in an equal money system none and i literally mean none are left behind or overlooked, or not considered.
i have to links for you here for you to see how easy it is to understand how we live in our mind bubbles, and accepting and allowing everyone to live in their little mind bubbles that has nothing to do with reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvhOwyPMZ_E&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko-7hm61pAU&feature=player_embedded
Watch both of them carefully and if any reaction happen within you in the form of thoughts, emotions or feelings, you know like judgments etc etc.......it is time to do self-forgiveness on all of them. 
www.youtube.comThe Mathematics of Stickmen Part 1 ----- sharing by Bernard Poolman on 20 JULY 2010 The copyright of this video is directly reserved by Desteni group. See li...
- SundayBonaire En de Dollar
- You say you underdstand but you don't. I'm born with it. It's not a state of mind. It's who I am. It's a defect. If I stay too long around people I get really sick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
- SundayLarry Alexander Manuela
- I don't know if you got me right, what i mean is this.
Is your defect a physical one or is it something that happens in your mind, that makes you not wanna be around people/....??
If it is not physical it is a mind delusion, that you and the scientists call a ''defect''........can you see this...??
- SundayLarry Alexander Manuela
- the scientists are like anyone else as delusional as everyone else, they are designed within the mind to be scientists, everything in this world that is of the human is a design of the mind consciousness system. We are systems living, sucking the life out of the physical that is real. We are like leaches......lol
- SundayBonaire En de Dollar
- Well whatever and who-ever called my STATE of being DEFECT or BEING DIFFERENT I don't mind if he/she/me is or was DELUSIONAL / BRAINWASHED / BRAINDEATH / LIFEBASED-IDEALIST.... I'm FEELING not AN allien anymore on this earth KNOWING that their are 20% of the population with the same PROBLEMS / DIFFICULTIES like I have.
- SundayLarry Alexander Manuela
- and if you make yourself believe that you don't have feelings and emotions, think twice, because if you are being uncomfortable around people as you say, you must ask yourself the question: ''where does this uncomfortable ''feelings'' come from. is it energetic...??? or is it like something physical, like being cripple and stuff like that, that are physical in nature, if it is energetic in anyways whatsoever it is the mind in work.
Emotions are negative energized thoughts.
feelings are positive energized thoughts.
So on this alone if you can use your own common sense, you can not state that you are not emotional and don't have feelings and that you ''feel'' like an alien on this earth, by the very fact that you are being uncomfortable around other human beings. this thing comfortable or uncomfortable is an EMOTION.......you see this...??
And if there is any feeling inside you or thoughts that make you believe that i am attacking you in any way, don't follow them because i am not, i am just using common sense here with you so you can see for yourself maybe that what you believe that you have and also those 20% of the population believe they have is all of the mind consciousness system, not real. that is all.
- SundayBonaire En de Dollar
- It's not an emotion or a feeling. We get UPSET if something changes around us. NO CHANGE at all IS PERFECT. So PEOPLE = CHANGE and CHANGE gets me upset --.> takes too much ENERGY soo much ENERGY that I get ILL. Also do I absorb all the NEGATIVE ENERGY that someone has. Some-times I can name it sometimes the PUZZLE will be compleet afther a few days. So YES I do avoid people as much as I can. DON't like to TALK with people on the PHONE because at the tone, tremble of their voice I get all their negative ENERGY. E-mail gives me enough distance to cope with the DRAINAGE. THANK MAN KIND for e-mail, SMS. So for me LIVE was, is and allways will be a HELL. It can't get worse.......
- SundayLarry Alexander Manuela
- That is exactly what i am saying........the word ''upset'' is derivative of an emotion. so is ''energy'' being negative or positive doesn't matter. And if you have watched the stickmen video full you would see that when you are saying: ''Also do I absorb all the NEGATIVE ENERGY that someone has.'' This is your making yourself believe that, that is possible, that you can ''absorb'' someone else energy into you. And this is what we are saying that is delusional of the human, and we are all like this, i am no different then anyone else on this earth. there is only one different and that is i can see it now for myself and delete the fucker........lol
So that was the whole conversation with this person.
Thank you.
Larry Manuela.
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